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Steve is a legend. Glad to hear this banter between two thoughtful, conscientious leaders.

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He is a legend indeed!

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Thanks for this. Amazing podcast episode.

Funny enough, I have found very similar to the commonalities in my coaching clients: feeling stuck, majour main career goals achieved (10+ year of work), sense of emptiness, work-life meaning crisis, need for a transition (sometimes started, sometimes not yet).

This really gives me the confidence to continue on my path, given that Steve's words really talk to my heart and to what I am witnessing in the world and people around me.

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Wonderful to hear! Its definitely a common archetype. I know I've experienced it

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